Real Housewives Of Orange County reunion: Heather Dubrow continues to call Noella Bergener a 'liar'

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Heather Dubrow continued to accuse Noella Bergener of being a liar on Wednesday’s second part of The Real Housewives of Orange County reunion.

‘You went out of your way to try to say nasty things to try and make me out to be a liar,’ Noella, 36, said to Heather.

‘Well, you are a liar,’ Heather, 53, said. ‘The sky is blue, the grass is green and Noella’s a liar.’

Reunion show: Heather Dubrow continued to accuse Noella Bergener of being a liar on Wednesday's second part of The Real Housewives of Orange County reunion on Bravo

Reunion show: Heather Dubrow continued to accuse Noella Bergener of being a liar on Wednesday’s second part of The Real Housewives of Orange County reunion on Bravo

One viewer asked Heather to explain why she hated Noella so much.

‘I do not hate Noella,’ Heather said. ‘The problem has been from the get-go when I barely knew you, and I invited you over to my house because I heard you called me a fake b****.’

Heather added that she was also not a narcissist just because she had pictures of herself up in her studio. She asked Andy if he had pictures of himself in his studio.

‘Everywhere, but I’m a narcissist,’ Andy said. ‘I would say everyone here is a narcissist.’

Nasty things: 'You went out of your way to try to say nasty things to try and make me out to be a liar,' Noella, 36, said to Heather

Nasty things: ‘You went out of your way to try to say nasty things to try and make me out to be a liar,’ Noella, 36, said to Heather

Noella then said she was on the other line when Heather called Nicole James.

‘She told me it was botched and it was a really bad experience by your husband, and she ultimately did follow through with a lawsuit, and she got a lot of money out of it.’ Noella said. ‘That’s what she told me.’

Heather meanwhile denied she ever called Nicole.

Surgery lawsuit: 'She told me it was botched and it was a really bad experience by your husband, and she ultimately did follow through with a lawsuit, and she got a lot of money out of it.' Noella said.'That's what she told me'

Surgery lawsuit: ‘She told me it was botched and it was a really bad experience by your husband, and she ultimately did follow through with a lawsuit, and she got a lot of money out of it.’ Noella said. ‘That’s what she told me’

‘What you don’t understand is that when you get a settlement from a doctor it is reported to the California Medical Board,’ Heather said. ‘There is no hiding a settlement.’

‘I’m telling you it is 1,000 percent not true,’ Heather added. ‘That didn’t happen.’

Noella asked why she kept trying to get people to stop talking about it.

Not true: 'I'm telling you it is 1,000 percent not true,' Heather added.'That didn't happen'

Not true: ‘I’m telling you it is 1,000 percent not true,’ Heather added. ‘That didn’t happen’

‘I don’t want a lawsuit about my husband continually being brought up,’ Heather said. ‘It’s obviously not great.’

Noella said she also saw Heather push a cameraman at her party when she wanted everyone to leave.

‘You changed your story every five seconds and none of it ever happened,’ Heather said.

Physical accusation: Noella said she also saw Heather push a cameraman at her party when she wanted everyone to leave

Physical accusation: Noella said she also saw Heather push a cameraman at her party when she wanted everyone to leave

‘You didn’t rage?’ Noella asked. ‘You didn’t push a camera?’

Reunion host Andy Cohen, 53, pointed out that Noella first said she saw Heather slam people into walls and then later said that someone told her that it happened.

Heather said that Noella perpetuated that story all season long. Noella and Heather also continued to argue about the card game gift that Noella gave Heather’s teenage daughter Max.

Together again: Noella, Emily Simpson, Shannon Beador, Andy Cohen, Heather, Gina Kirschenheiter and Jennifer Armstrong rehashed the season 16 drama

Together again: Noella, Emily Simpson, Shannon Beador, Andy Cohen, Heather, Gina Kirschenheiter and Jennifer Armstrong rehashed the season 16 drama

‘It’s not pornography,’ Noella said.

‘Oh really I think Merriam-Webster would beg to differ,’ Heather said.

Andy then said when Noella wasn’t fighting for marriage that she was pretty much fighting with everyone else on the cast. Andy asked Jen Armstrong, 44, what was her first impression of Noella.

The host: Andy hosted the second and final reunion with the RHOC cast

The host: Andy hosted the second and final reunion with the RHOC cast

‘You came off very pretentious to me,’ Jen said to Noella. ‘I felt there was an energy between us that I wanted to clear up.’

Noella said Jen contributed to fanning the flames at Heather’s party.

‘Really firing Emily up and I was like ‘gosh I knew she was s*** stirrer,’ Noella said.

First impression: 'You came off very pretentious to me,' Jen said to Noella.'I felt there was an energy between us that I wanted to clear up'

First impression: ‘You came off very pretentious to me,’ Jen said to Noella. ‘I felt there was an energy between us that I wanted to clear up’

‘That’s not even true,’ Jen said. ‘You literally just make stuff up. You literally make sh** up, Noella. I cannot. It’s like talking to a child that just makes stuff up.’

Andy asked Noella about why she got so mad at Jen for tagging her in a photo. Noella said she didn’t want to be associated with Jen’s med spa.

‘I had heard things about her med spa that really made me feel like I don’t necessarily want to be associated with that,’ Noella said.

Med spa: 'I had heard things about her med spa that really made me feel like I don't necessarily want to be associated with that,' Noella said of Jen's med spa

Med spa: ‘I had heard things about her med spa that really made me feel like I don’t necessarily want to be associated with that,’ Noella said of Jen’s med spa

‘That is so inappropriate,’ Jen said.

One viewer asked Emily Simpson, 45, if she went too far by not allowing Noella to talk about her divorce. Emily denied that she went too far.

‘You just kept bringing up things about your divorce, and it seemed very inappropriate,’ Emily said of when she was trying to talk to Jen about her marriage.

Too far: One viewer asked Emily Simpson, 45, if she went too far by not allowing Noella to talk about her divorce

Too far: One viewer asked Emily Simpson, 45, if she went too far by not allowing Noella to talk about her divorce

‘It is all she talks about,’ Emily said.

Another viewer asked Gina Kirschenheiter, 37, what it would take for her to be able to repair her friendship with Noella. 

Gina said for her it just ‘has to be slow and steady.’

Strained relationship: Another viewer asked Gina Kirschenheiter, 37, what it would take for her to be able to repair her friendship with Noella

Strained relationship: Another viewer asked Gina Kirschenheiter, 37, what it would take for her to be able to repair her friendship with Noella

‘Well, it was probably the worst part of your life,’ Andy said.

‘To have your life fall apart and to be in the situation where you don’t know if you are making the right decision for your family, for your mental health, for your financial future, and that you girls were instantly like a sisterhood,’ Noella said. ‘I know I leaned hard. And I know that I was a lot.’

‘It was a lot,’ Emily said.

A lot: 'To have your life fall apart and to be in the situation where you don't know if you are making the right decision for your family, for your mental health, for your financial future, and that you girls were instantly like a sisterhood,' Noella said.'I know I leaned hard. And I know that I was a lot'

A lot: ‘To have your life fall apart and to be in the situation where you don’t know if you are making the right decision for your family, for your mental health, for your financial future, and that you girls were instantly like a sisterhood,’ Noella said. ‘I know I leaned hard. And I know that I was a lot’

Andy asked if she would do anything differently. Noella said if she knew that divorce was coming that she wouldn’t have done the show.

When the reunion opened, Shannon Beador, 58, said that there were multiple times that she had gone above and beyond for Gina, but that she still was ‘mean-spirited’ to her.

‘And you have the audacity to say ”Do you even have any friends, Shannon?”.’ Shannon said. ‘That is the most cruel, egotistical, arrogant thing to say to somebody.’

First topic: When the reunion opened, Shannon Beador, 58, said that there were multiple times that she had gone above and beyond for Gina, but that she still was'mean-spirited' to her

First topic: When the reunion opened, Shannon Beador, 58, said that there were multiple times that she had gone above and beyond for Gina, but that she still was ‘mean-spirited’ to her

‘You know what’s mean-spirited watching John tell me I could basically go f*** myself, how aggressive he was to me, at that house,’ Gina said. ‘That was horrible.’

Shannon said John was just defending her.

‘I’m concerned for you if that’s how he f***ing defends you,’ Gina said.

Harsh language: 'You know what's mean-spirited watching John tell me I could basically go f*** myself, how aggressive he was to me, at that house,' Gina said.'That was horrible'

Harsh language: ‘You know what’s mean-spirited watching John tell me I could basically go f*** myself, how aggressive he was to me, at that house,’ Gina said. ‘That was horrible’

‘Stop with your f***ing allegations,’ Shannon said.

‘No man I know would ever act like that,’ Gina said.

Andy asked Shannon where she stands now with Gina.

Good question: Andy asked Shannon where she stands now with Gina

Good question: Andy asked Shannon where she stands now with Gina

‘I can get-a-long and have fun if she’s here,’ Shannon said. ‘It’s not going to cause tension and ruin everybody’s time.’

‘It kind of sounds like she can be in the same room with you,’ Andy said.

‘I didn’t mean it that harsh because you and I did have fun together this season,’ Shannon said.

Good times: 'I didn't mean it that harsh because you and I did have fun together this season,' Shannon said

Good times: ‘I didn’t mean it that harsh because you and I did have fun together this season,’ Shannon said

‘I do care about you and if I joke on you or whatever, I do that to everybody,’ Gina said. ‘And if that bothers you, I can work on that.’

‘I appreciate that,’ Shannon said, who then apologized on behalf of her boyfriend John.

One viewer asked Jen since she was the expert who she thought had the best work done. Jen told Shannon that she looked very lifted.

Very lifted: Jen told Shannon that she looked very lifted

Very lifted: Jen told Shannon that she looked very lifted

‘I had a facelift five weeks ago,’ Shannon said.

‘I can tell it looks nice,’ Jen said.

‘What?’ Andy said. ‘Oh my God that’s a total Vicky move.’

Recent facelift: 'I had a facelift five weeks ago,' Shannon revealed

Recent facelift: ‘I had a facelift five weeks ago,’ Shannon revealed

‘My reunion prep was a colonoscopy,’ Heather said. ‘I thought I was going to be skinny.’

‘I’ve been cool sculpting like nobody’s business,’ Gina said.

‘I’ve done Botox, filler, laser since the show wrapped,’ Jen said. ‘I would love to do some threads right after. That’s my plan.’

Reunion prep: 'My reunion prep was a colonoscopy,' Heather said.'I thought I was going to be skinny'

Reunion prep: ‘My reunion prep was a colonoscopy,’ Heather said. ‘I thought I was going to be skinny’

Andy asked Shannon about her relationship with her ex-husband David.

‘It’s non-existent and nothing has changed,’ Shannon said.

One viewer asked if Shannon’s new boyfriend was avoiding talking about marriage. Shannon said that they do talk about it but that they are in no rush. Shannon said she did want to get married again at some point. One viewer asked Shannon about her comment about how she was having the best sex of her life now with her boyfriend.

‘It was just kind of a non existent act in my prior life so it’s a little bit different now,’ Shanon said of her current sex life.

Sex life: 'It was just kind of a non existent act in my prior life so it's a little bit different now,' Shanon said of her current sex life.

Sex life: ‘It was just kind of a non existent act in my prior life so it’s a little bit different now,’ Shanon said of her current sex life.

Andy asked Shannon if she had a celebrity hall pass person and she said no that she hadn’t thought of one. Emily said hers was Charlie Hunnam. Noella said hers was Janet Jackson. Heather also said she didn’t have one. Jen said hers was Sean Penn and Gina’s was Jimmy Fallon.

One viewer asked Jen if her husband Ryne Holliday actually makes money. She said he does have a very successful company.

‘It’s called Hawaiian hideaways,’ Jen said. ‘He rents to pretty high-end celebrities.’

Hall pass: Andy asked Shannon if she had a celebrity hall pass

Hall pass: Andy asked Shannon if she had a celebrity hall pass

Andy asked her if she was the bigger bread winner.

‘It was like that for many years but we’re becoming more equalized,’ Jen said. ‘It was interesting watching the show, it was almost therapeutic. Because it was like holy s*** we’ve got to change this. This is just way too far and we’re both very unhappy.’

Andy commented that it was clear that Ryne does not like being on camera. Heather shared when she spoke to him once about a vacation rental he was so personable and outgoing but when she met him he was a completely different person.

Camera shy: Andy commented that it was clear that Ryne does not like being on camera

Camera shy: Andy commented that it was clear that Ryne does not like being on camera

‘To have the cameras around was just a lot for him,’ Heather said.

‘It took a while with Shane,’ Emily said. ‘He didn’t want to talk about things on camera.’

‘Not Terry,’ Heather said. ‘Point a camera and that man’s happy.’

Andy said to Jen that she revealed she was engaged seven times before Ryne and asked how he was different.

Multiple engagements: Andy said to Jen that she revealed she was engaged seven times before Ryne and asked how he was different

Multiple engagements: Andy said to Jen that she revealed she was engaged seven times before Ryne and asked how he was different

‘From the second I saw him, literally, it’s so cliche love at first sight, but at the breakfast buffet it was love at first sight,’ Jen said.

Jen said their relationship kind of came to a head.

‘He moved out, for a little while and it helped,’ Jen said, ‘It kind of reset. There was peace in the house. I was with the kids. It was actually really helpful.’

Andy asked her how she felt about her marriage now.

‘I feel hopeful,’ Jen said. ‘It’s actually peace and some laughter where you’re like ‘I want to be in this again.’

Feels hopeful: 'I feel hopeful,' Jen said.'It's actually peace and some laughter where you're like'I want to be in this again'

Feels hopeful: ‘I feel hopeful,’ Jen said. ‘It’s actually peace and some laughter where you’re like ‘I want to be in this again’

Andy then discussed the girls trip to Aspen. He asked Noella about how she deserved the biggest room because her Dad had just died. She explained that she was coming off a period when no one was responding to her text messages.

‘That was because you were telling these lies and it was making everyone feel a certain way,’ Heather said.

‘You were so controlling of the friend group that nobody could be nice to me,’ Noella said.

In control: 'You were so controlling of the friend group that nobody could be nice to me,' Noella told Heather

In control: ‘You were so controlling of the friend group that nobody could be nice to me,’ Noella told Heather

‘Yes, it’s all me Noella,’ Heather said.

Noella said she felt that she was ganged up on by all the women during that trip. Shannon said that Noella was dealing with a death that had only happened for days earlier.

‘Your dad was a famous weatherman in LA,’ Andy said. ‘You were pretty much estranged.’

Famous weatherman: 'Your dad was a famous weatherman in LA,' Andy said.'You were pretty much estranged'

Famous weatherman: ‘Your dad was a famous weatherman in LA,’ Andy said. ‘You were pretty much estranged’

‘I was his one and only child and his career took off when I was born,’ Noella said. ‘We would see each other occasionally but it was a very strained relationship. I hate to seem vain on this one, but it wasn’t until I signed with Elite when I was 17 and developed my book in Southeast Asia.’

Noella said she would mail him her report cards during her education and they would come back unopened.

‘I learned to play golf primarily to have a relationship with my father,’ Noella said.

Golf player: 'I learned to play golf primarily to have a relationship with my father,' Noella said

Golf player: ‘I learned to play golf primarily to have a relationship with my father,’ Noella said

Noella said it wasn’t until she entered the entertainment industry when he seemed to take an interest in her career.

‘In many ways, he was so proud of me being in the show and representing,’ Noella said crying.

At the end of the show, Andy asked each of them to say one positive thing about another cast member.

Positive part: At the end of the show, Andy asked each of them to say one positive thing about another cast member

Positive part: At the end of the show, Andy asked each of them to say one positive thing about another cast member

Emily went first and addressed Heather.

‘It was so positive to be with someone who really put the effort into getting to know me, and my husband and my children,’ Emily said. ‘It was so nice for someone to take such a true interest in my life.’

Heather went next and thanked everyone first for welcoming her back.

First up: 'It was so positive to be with someone who really put the effort into getting to know me, and my husband and my children,' Emily said about Heather.'It was so nice for someone to take such a true interest in my life'

First up: ‘It was so positive to be with someone who really put the effort into getting to know me, and my husband and my children,’ Emily said about Heather. ‘It was so nice for someone to take such a true interest in my life’

‘The scenes with my kids were so important to me that I honestly, even with the bullsh** stuff that happens, would do it all over again,’ Heather said. ‘And Noella, if we are to meet again, I hope that you will get a chance to actually not only know me but let me get to know you.’

‘I would love that,’ Noella said.

Noella addressed Jen.

Next time: 'And Noella, if we are to meet again, I hope that you will get a chance to actually not only know me but let me get to know you'

Next time: ‘And Noella, if we are to meet again, I hope that you will get a chance to actually not only know me but let me get to know you’

‘It’s almost like a sisterhood, but we were like the sisters that fought the most,’ Noella said. ‘But I genuinely have a lot of respect for you knowing the chronic pain that you’re constantly in, and how strong you must be doing all the things you do.’

Jen told her she appreciated it.

‘If drama was a drug, you would be a pharmacy,’ Jen said. ‘Although I don’t agree with a lot of it, I can still appreciate your enthusiasm.’

Drama remark: :'If drama was a drug, you would be a pharmacy,' Jen told Noella.'Although I don't agree with a lot of it, I can still appreciate your enthusiasm'

Drama remark: :’If drama was a drug, you would be a pharmacy,’ Jen told Noella. ‘Although I don’t agree with a lot of it, I can still appreciate your enthusiasm’

Shannon said she wanted to say something nice about Gina.

‘I want to say that I am very, very proud of you,’ Shannon said. 

‘To see you and your lovely boyfriend literally in such an amazingly clean and orderly household with six children, is admirable. I’m very excited for your new business venture and wishing you nothing but the best,’ she added.

Nice remarks: Shannon said she wanted to say something nice about Gina

Nice remarks: Shannon said she wanted to say something nice about Gina

‘I’m going to send it right back to you,’ Gina said. ‘I think you are an incredibly resilient woman.’

Heather then told Emily that she was an incredible mom.

‘It’s really beautiful to watch,’ Heather said.

The women and Andy then gathered for a pineapple drink together to close the reunion.

Big finish: The women and Andy then gathered for a pineapple drink together to close the reunion

Big finish: The women and Andy then gathered for a pineapple drink together to close the reunion

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